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@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@skeptiker @bjo

#bluesky's approach to #moderation:

"fuck that job, you do it... uh, freedom!"

voila:

#composableModeration

but then they police *that*

so in the end it's a trick to keep the hamsters running on the wheel of "bluesky is #decentralized and free!"

nope

#corporate #socialMedia doesn't like moderation

1. it's a cost center: you need to pay #moderators

2. it squelches #bigots and #trolls

but they mean outrage -> eyeballs and clicks -> engagement, their bread and butter

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@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@breizh

#moderation is a human endeavor and is subjective

there will be grey areas

the idea is to be as rigorous as possible and allow for goofs, as long as there are standards and reviews

none of this has anything to do with the idea of #composableModeration

at best it's #bluesky corporate going "fuck moderation, you do it"

and then of course the result is crap

so they try to police *that*

and the blowback: "you said we could do it, but you're not letting us"

the whole idea is bullshit

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@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@thisismissem

sure, a #blocklist can be capricious and abusive, and subject to pique

but the overarching concept is that anyone makes a blocklist, and makes it as rigorous and comprehensive, or random and shoddy, as they want

and then people subscribe to it or not depending upon its quality (or lack thereof: is the theoretical harm in that a problem if it is self-imposed?)

if #bluesky corporate polices that, then what we get is they've removed the entire premise of #composableModeration

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@fediverse_user  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

A #blocklist is not going to be polite

It's a blocklist after all

So much for " #composableModeration" on #centralized #Bluesky

#moderation #AI


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Dane SOON NYCC AA L-34 @monkeymin... 41m What, and I cannot stress this enough, the
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carrion
@carrion.bsky.social . 5h
just don't create a moderation list, bluesky said that's bad
noreply 10:52 AM
to me
Hi there,
Your Bluesky account
(@carrion.bsky.social) has created a list called "Al Slop Posters" that may violate our Community Guidelines. We've temporarily hidden this list from other users because it contains one or more of these issues.
- Harmful language such as insults or slurs
- Unverified claims
- Appears intended to shame or abuse users
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• Dane SOON NYCC AA L-34 @monkeymin... 41m What, and I cannot stress this enough, the fuck. ↑ carrion @carrion.bsky.social . 5h just don't create a moderation list, bluesky said that's bad noreply 10:52 AM to me Hi there, Your Bluesky account (@carrion.bsky.social) has created a list called "Al Slop Posters" that may violate our Community Guidelines. We've temporarily hidden this list from other users because it contains one or more of these issues. - Harmful language such as insults or slurs - Unverified claims - Appears intended to shame or abuse users ≈ 8 35 J
• Dane SOON NYCC AA L-34 @monkeymin... 41m What, and I cannot stress this enough, the fuck. ↑ carrion @carrion.bsky.social . 5h just don't create a moderation list, bluesky said that's bad noreply 10:52 AM to me Hi there, Your Bluesky account (@carrion.bsky.social) has created a list called "Al Slop Posters" that may violate our Community Guidelines. We've temporarily hidden this list from other users because it contains one or more of these issues. - Harmful language such as insults or slurs - Unverified claims - Appears intended to shame or abuse users ≈ 8 35 J
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@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@skeptiker @bjo

#bluesky's approach to #moderation:

"fuck that job, you do it... uh, freedom!"

voila:

#composableModeration

but then they police *that*

so in the end it's a trick to keep the hamsters running on the wheel of "bluesky is #decentralized and free!"

nope

#corporate #socialMedia doesn't like moderation

1. it's a cost center: you need to pay #moderators

2. it squelches #bigots and #trolls

but they mean outrage -> eyeballs and clicks -> engagement, their bread and butter

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@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@breizh

#moderation is a human endeavor and is subjective

there will be grey areas

the idea is to be as rigorous as possible and allow for goofs, as long as there are standards and reviews

none of this has anything to do with the idea of #composableModeration

at best it's #bluesky corporate going "fuck moderation, you do it"

and then of course the result is crap

so they try to police *that*

and the blowback: "you said we could do it, but you're not letting us"

the whole idea is bullshit

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@thisismissem

sure, a #blocklist can be capricious and abusive, and subject to pique

but the overarching concept is that anyone makes a blocklist, and makes it as rigorous and comprehensive, or random and shoddy, as they want

and then people subscribe to it or not depending upon its quality (or lack thereof: is the theoretical harm in that a problem if it is self-imposed?)

if #bluesky corporate polices that, then what we get is they've removed the entire premise of #composableModeration

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fediverse_user
@fediverse_user  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

A #blocklist is not going to be polite

It's a blocklist after all

So much for " #composableModeration" on #centralized #Bluesky

#moderation #AI


•
Dane SOON NYCC AA L-34 @monkeymin... 41m What, and I cannot stress this enough, the
fuck.
↑
carrion
@carrion.bsky.social . 5h
just don't create a moderation list, bluesky said that's bad
noreply 10:52 AM
to me
Hi there,
Your Bluesky account
(@carrion.bsky.social) has created a list called "Al Slop Posters" that may violate our Community Guidelines. We've temporarily hidden this list from other users because it contains one or more of these issues.
- Harmful language such as insults or slurs
- Unverified claims
- Appears intended to shame or abuse users
≈ 8
35
J
• Dane SOON NYCC AA L-34 @monkeymin... 41m What, and I cannot stress this enough, the fuck. ↑ carrion @carrion.bsky.social . 5h just don't create a moderation list, bluesky said that's bad noreply 10:52 AM to me Hi there, Your Bluesky account (@carrion.bsky.social) has created a list called "Al Slop Posters" that may violate our Community Guidelines. We've temporarily hidden this list from other users because it contains one or more of these issues. - Harmful language such as insults or slurs - Unverified claims - Appears intended to shame or abuse users ≈ 8 35 J
• Dane SOON NYCC AA L-34 @monkeymin... 41m What, and I cannot stress this enough, the fuck. ↑ carrion @carrion.bsky.social . 5h just don't create a moderation list, bluesky said that's bad noreply 10:52 AM to me Hi there, Your Bluesky account (@carrion.bsky.social) has created a list called "Al Slop Posters" that may violate our Community Guidelines. We've temporarily hidden this list from other users because it contains one or more of these issues. - Harmful language such as insults or slurs - Unverified claims - Appears intended to shame or abuse users ≈ 8 35 J
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