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Ben Royce 馃嚭馃嚘
@benroyce@mastodon.social  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA @rzeta0

i view #bluesky as somewhat worse than #threads

threads is honestly and boldly centralized #zuckerberg shit

bluesky on the other hand has extended the #cryptobro con job

(since it's run by crypto bros after all):

1. make a dazzling promise
2. don't deliver on the promise ( #decentralization)
3. nevertheless harvest feverish cult devotion on the promise, be damned the reality

people out there enthuse about decentralization and bluesky

it isn't

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Distante
@Distante@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@benroyce @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA @rzeta0 I don't understand this argument about centralisation.

Bluesky and Mastodon are the same. But they have different protocols.

You can create your own server and communicate with others, right?

It's difficult to control the audience. All you can do is moderate effectively

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Ben Royce 馃嚭馃嚘
@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Distante @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA @rzeta0

there is no decentralization on bluesky

technologically there is

but implementation is one big wonking centralization

there's northsky and blacksky and others

but they are mostly developing as different silos

rather than integrated like how mastodon/ fediverse is thousands of open servers, warring with each other and suspending and refederating in an endless low grade fractured babel

i much prefer the latter drama than a fake promise

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qurlyjoe
@qurlyjoe@mstdn.social replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@benroyce @Distante @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA @rzeta0
In a cute way Fedi is more organic in the way it mimics the boiling and roiling of living creatures and on a larger scale, ecosystems of organisms. The inherent resiliency of distributed systems as opposed to monolithic ones is remarkable also.

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Petra van Cronenburg
@NatureMC@mastodon.online replied  路  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@qurlyjoe I like your description. Perhaps this is why we have more communication ... it's a little bit like the village of Asterix and Obelix (including the fish fights).

@benroyce @Distante @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA @rzeta0

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su_liam
@su_liam@mas.to replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@benroyce @Distante @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA @rzeta0 And apparently a huge amount of effort was required to build and maintain those silos. Building and maintaining a fediverse instance is far from effortless, but blacksky and such seem to have needed to create a lot of in-house patches over holes in atproto to make it work.

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Private private
@privateblack@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@su_liam @benroyce @Distante @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA @rzeta0 I can see BlueSky have problem on site I was like wtf that it something not right. People really need leaving BlueSky.

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Deb Nam-Krane
@dnkboston@apobangpo.space replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@benroyce Yeah...this thread isn't going to end well 馃檪

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Ben Royce 馃嚭馃嚘
@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@dnkboston 馃槅

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SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:
@SnowyCA@social.vivaldi.net replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@benroyce @Distante @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @rzeta0

yes, there is a marked difference between the two.

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Mastodon Migration
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@benroyce @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA @rzeta0@mas.to

Agree that #Bluesky should be judged harshly for such deceitful marketing tactics.

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SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:
@SnowyCA@social.vivaldi.net replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@mastodonmigration @benroyce @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo

100% agreeing.

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Ben Royce 馃嚭馃嚘
@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  路  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@mastodonmigration @zakalwe @vfrmedia @piggo @SnowyCA

unfortunately there are a lot more crypto bro quality minds out there than those who can see a difference between promise and reality

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