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Elena Rossini ⁂
@_elena@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

@benroyce last night I caught up on all the drama and I'm absolutely flabbergasted... and a little surprised there hasn't been more talk on here about the implications of the false promises of AT Proto's decentralization.

Link has been permanently banned even if he's on Blacksky... because Blacksky uses Bluesky's AppView https://bsky.app/profile/rvbdrm.com/post/3m2jxe5ly722x

Looking up "Link Blacksky" on Bluesky surfaces really interesting talking points

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@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 20 hours ago

@_elena

"surprised there hasn't been more talk on here about the implications of the false promises of AT Proto's #decentralization"

there's feverish true believers who think #bitcoin is the future of money

never going to happen: massive energy use

that doesn't stop the true believer

it's a cult

same with " #bluesky is #decentralized"

and my example of bitcoin is purposeful:

bluesky is run by #cryptoBros, and funded by #crypto bros

they imported the crypto con job to #socialMedia

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@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@erikcats

#bluesky apparently *can* be #decentralized

someday

always someday, never today

miss me with that cult noise of endless hype promise and "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" reality

bluesky is #centralized #corporate bullshit

and someday the #cryptoBros who run it and the #crypto bros who fund it will turn it into another #twitter

in fact, it might be happening right now

fuck bluesky

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Erik
@erikcats@dice.camp  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@benroyce so let me get this right: bluesky is decentralised because it is available on different apps and runs on different servers, and willing hobbyists can run their own servers there and build their own apps - BUT all the traffic is still checked, moderated and controlled centrally?

That's not decentralisation, that sounds more like colonialism.

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@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@erikcats

#bluesky apparently *can* be #decentralized

someday

always someday, never today

miss me with that cult noise of endless hype promise and "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" reality

bluesky is #centralized #corporate bullshit

and someday the #cryptoBros who run it and the #crypto bros who fund it will turn it into another #twitter

in fact, it might be happening right now

fuck bluesky

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@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@mrcompletely @irelephant

i will call them cultists

because it is the same as dealing with #cryptoBros and their feverish devotion to promise over reality

in fact, since #bluesky is run by and funded by #crypto bros, that happenstance is not a mistake

it is the same sales speak con job in action, by the same people, for the same effect:

fuck reality, focus on the lie, and don't waver from your faith in the empty promise

a cult

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Mr. Completely
@mrcompletely@heads.social  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@irelephant @benroyce the suspension imposed by the BlueSky moderation team is *absolutely* impacting the Blacksky instance.

I'm not interested in calling anyone a cultist. I think the noncommercial, truly decentralized Fedi/Masto model is correct even though the current technical implementation and culture(s) are both problematic, but my take has been that *if Bluesky has the inherent flaws I believe it does*, those will reveal themselves over time. And it seems that is happening now.

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@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@mrcompletely @irelephant

i will call them cultists

because it is the same as dealing with #cryptoBros and their feverish devotion to promise over reality

in fact, since #bluesky is run by and funded by #crypto bros, that happenstance is not a mistake

it is the same sales speak con job in action, by the same people, for the same effect:

fuck reality, focus on the lie, and don't waver from your faith in the empty promise

a cult

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@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@kkarhan

and it's a ticking time bomb

any day now the #cryptobros who fund #bluesky will want something for their investment, and if they don't get what they want, they put an elon #musk style #techbro turd at the top to milk it for a financial return and bluesky goes the way of #twitter

you can't trust corporate #socialMedia

its failure is built in from the root

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦
@benroyce@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@kkarhan

and it's a ticking time bomb

any day now the #cryptobros who fund #bluesky will want something for their investment, and if they don't get what they want, they put an elon #musk style #techbro turd at the top to milk it for a financial return and bluesky goes the way of #twitter

you can't trust corporate #socialMedia

its failure is built in from the root

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