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Fight Chat Control
@chatcontrol@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

Peter Hummelgaard, Danish Minister of Justice, in an interview about Chat Control, remains defiant:

"I indisputably believe that surveillance creates an increased sense of security ... and given that the prerequisite for freedom is security, yes, I believe that more surveillance equates to more freedom"

Disagree? Share your thoughts via https://fightchatcontrol.eu/, or to jm@jm.dk directly.

Danish Minister of Justice, Peter Hummelgaard.
Danish Minister of Justice, Peter Hummelgaard.
Danish Minister of Justice, Peter Hummelgaard.
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Maarten Steenhagen
@msteenhagen@provo.lol replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@chatcontrol This quote from Hummelgaard makes the logician in me sick and sad.

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B.
@bhg@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@chatcontrol dangerously dumb dane

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Null03
@Null03@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@chatcontrol "I indisputably believe that surveillance creates an increased sense of security"

Queue to Discord getting their user's information leaked to a third party, a hacker, who got the info about people's IDs, payment methods, the 4 last digits of credit cards, government IDs, driver's licenses, photos to verify their age due to the mandatory ID checking on the support ticket system, most recently + Thanks UK'S mandatory age verification.

It's almost like THIS DOESN'T WORK.

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Jaap Zeldenrust
@jozeldenrust@social.sdfeu.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@chatcontrol
So what he's saying is that he's the type of guy who doesn't wash his hands after peeing, unless someone saw him coming out of the stall.

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Benjamin Christensen
@gambolputte@expressional.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol Unfortunately here in Denmark we see that NGOs like UNICEF stand behind the proposal and thereby making it more appealing to the average viewer.

The NGOs seem to have the idea that client-side scanning and privacy for the citizens can exist simultaneously even though experts are protesting, as we all know https://csa-scientist-open-letter.org/Sep2025

Unfortunately it is Peter Hummelgaard backed by these institutions we see in the news. We don't see the professors from Computer Science explaining the problems of the proposal.

I have tried to challenge their claims on LinkedIn where the head of UNICEF Denmark explains how the coming "tool" gives her hope:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/susanne-dahl-4027a034_fornyet-h%C3%A5b-for-b%C3%B8rns-rettigheder-online-activity-7379839569481003008-8EJG

It is time to use your voice to protest where you can!

EU-citizens: fightchatcontrol.eu
Denmark: borgerforslag.dk/se-og-stoet-forslag/?Id=FT-21156

#dkpol #surveillance #chatcontrol

Fornyet håb for børns rettigheder online

I dag går jeg på weekend med fornyet håb 💙

Jeg har været til møde i Justitsministeriet/Ministry of Justice om, hvordan vi bedst bekæmper seksuelt… | Susanne Dahl

Fornyet håb for børns rettigheder online I dag går jeg på weekend med fornyet håb 💙 Jeg har været til møde i Justitsministeriet/Ministry of Justice om, hvordan vi bedst bekæmper seksuelt overgrebsmateriale med børn. Et af de mørkeste og mest smertefulde problemer på nettet. Rundt om bordet sad ministeren, tech-virksomheder og børneorganisationer. Og vi var enige om det mest grundlæggende: 👉 Problemet er alvorligt. 👉 Vi kan ikke længere vende ryggen til det. For hver dag deles overgrebsmateriale online. Bag hvert eneste billede er et barn, der allerede er blevet svigtet én gang – og som svigtes igen og igen, hver gang billedet deles. Det er en virkelighed, ingen kan løse alene. Men i dag så jeg noget vigtigt: ✔ Der er politisk vilje. ✔ Der er erkendelse. ✔ Og der er en fælles forståelse af, at tiden til handling er nu. EU-Kommissionen har lagt en løsning på bordet – CSA-forordningen – som forhandles netop nu under det danske EU-formandskab. Den kan give os de værktøjer, vi har brug for til at opspore og fjerne overgrebsmateriale. I UNICEF Danmark insisterer vi altid på balance: Børns ret til beskyttelse må aldrig ske på bekostning af deres ret til privatliv. Heldigvis viser kompromisteksten, at begge hensyn kan forenes. Det giver håb. En stor tak til Peter Hummelgaard, Johanne Schmidt-Nielsen, Rasmus Kjeldahl, Ask Hesby Holm, Anni Marquard, Miriam Michaelsen, Christian Hannibal, Christian Mogensen, Kristian Riber, Mikael Ekman og alle øvrige deltagere for et åbent, ærligt og konstruktivt møde. Hos UNICEF Danmark glæder vi os til at bygge videre på samarbejdet – og til at skabe et digitalt miljø, hvor børn kan færdes trygt og frit.
https://csa-scientist-open-letter.org/Sep2025
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Mikalai
@mikalai@privacysafe.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol
Is this a linear argument, while relation isn't linear. And forgetting non-linearity creates this ... curve ball

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wolnyjez
@wolnyjez@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol So that's why politicians are pushing for #ageverification, weakening #encryption and constant internet #surveillance.

They simply want to give us more #freedom! KEKW

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raison d'etre dev
@raisondetredev@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol I would gladly set up surveillance cameras and microphones in his home. Hopefully, this will also increase his sense of security. :clippy:

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eddie
@dreddie@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol Oh... a "sense" of security eh? So is that admitting that chat control doesn't increase actual security, but only the "sense" of security?

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Sibrosan
@sibrosan@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol

Do you see what he does there?

He talks about a sense of security, and in the next sentence he equates that to actual security.

That's a fallacy.

I even doubt that it's unintentional.

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Gondor
@grootinside@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol
We're all moving backwards.* 😒 We experienced such "trade" and way to many around the globe still do.

* "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
Benjamin Franklin

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Kelvin Jackson (Kei)
@puujalkavihrea@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol Why do these people keep getting elected? :/

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Dr. Oblivious
@DaveRussell@stranger.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol Security for who? Freedom for who? There's something wrong when the ruling class wants to take away privacy. Someone needs to introduce this guy to Stephen Miller. Those two would get along like a house on fire. That also gives us an idea where to put them.

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Jo Jitsu
@JoBlakely@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol his face is not of one that looks calm or secure.

And more eyes on you makes no one feel secure.
They have not dealt with the MANY men especially causing harm to children and women that we know of. Start there. That will help you find the others, and get warrants. You don’t need to surveille everyone.

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jackcole
@jackcole@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol The. right to be left alone.
https://www.brandeis.edu/now/2013/july/privacy.html

BrandeisNOW

To be let alone: Brandeis foresaw privacy problems | BrandeisNOW

“Recent inventions and business methods call attention to the next step which must be taken for the protection of the person, and for securing to the individual … the right ‘to be let alone’ … Numerous mechanical devices threaten to make good the prediction that ‘what is whispered in the closet shall be proclaimed from the house-tops.’”
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eruwero
@eruwero@ieji.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol this is so fucking stupid. Obvious fallacy, simply factually wrong (creating additional vulnerabilities, backdoors, more opportunities to steal or misuse personal, private data will definitely make it more secure, sure), and apart from that it's a fucking dystopian big brother surveillance ideology

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spdrnl
@spdrnl@sigmoid.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol War is peace!

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Sassinake! - ⊃∪∩⪽
@Sassinake@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol

he looks like the kind of guy who wants to control other people's chats - and not be able to look at his.

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Phil Betts
@philbetts@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

RE: https://mastodon.social/@chatcontrol/115314954743042414

The lovechild of Neil Patrick Harris and Joel McHale.

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Orange Gentleman
@sweetskies479@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@chatcontrol mass surveillance is a cornerstone of fascism and directly lays the foundation for it. Diminishing freedom under the illusion of safety

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