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Cory Doctorow
@pluralistic@mamot.fr  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Apple has threatened to stop selling iPhones and other devices in the European Union (home to over 500,000,000 affluent consumers) if the bloc doesn't rescind the Digital Markets Act, a democratically accountable anti-monopoly law that bans Apple from blocking third parties from offering services to iPhone owners:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/25/apple-calls-for-changes-to-anti-monopoly-laws-and-says-it-may-stop-shipping-to-the-eu

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Apple calls for changes to anti-monopoly laws and says it may stop shipping to the EU

The iPhone-maker criticises Brussels’ Digital Markets Act and says delayed features are leading to a worse experience for users
The EU flag. Behind the ring of golden stars is a rotten apple. Above the apple is the Apple 'Think different' wordmark. A worm climbs through the 'd' in 'different' and rests on the apple.

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The EU flag. Behind the ring of golden stars is a rotten apple. Above the apple is the Apple 'Think different' wordmark. A worm climbs through the 'd' in 'different' and rests on the apple. Image: Alex Popovkin, Bahia, Brazil from Brazil (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Annelid_worm,_Atlantic_forest,_northern_littoral_of_Bahia,_Brazil_%2816107326533%29.jpg CC BY 2.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en -- Hubertl (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2015-03-04_Elstar_%28apple%29_starting_putrefying_IMG_9761_bis_9772.jpg CC BY-SA 4.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en
The EU flag. Behind the ring of golden stars is a rotten apple. Above the apple is the Apple 'Think different' wordmark. A worm climbs through the 'd' in 'different' and rests on the apple. Image: Alex Popovkin, Bahia, Brazil from Brazil (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Annelid_worm,_Atlantic_forest,_northern_littoral_of_Bahia,_Brazil_%2816107326533%29.jpg CC BY 2.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en -- Hubertl (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2015-03-04_Elstar_%28apple%29_starting_putrefying_IMG_9761_bis_9772.jpg CC BY-SA 4.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en
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Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic Ha! Empty threaths.
Where are they gonna replace all those sales?

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Bas Jansen
@basjhj@mastodon.nl replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic According to the folks of AppleInsider, who were apparently at the same press briefing as The Guardian, Apple actually never threatened to leave the EU market and, despite an insisting Guardian journalist, flat out dismissed the idea.

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Kevin Russell
@kevinrns@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic

Bye! See ya! Dont let the door hit you . . . ohhh that's gonna leave a mark.

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crispycat :enbytroll:
@crispycat@mastodon.calitabby.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic the EU should respond by amending the act to include provisions to require manufacturers not prevent users from installing alternative operating systems

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indyradio
@indyradio@kafeneio.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic oh I forgot #Apple thrives on that captive market which a key to Apple's continued growth.
...finally a solid hit where it matters.

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Sigismund Ninja
@sigismundninja@mastodon.nu replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic yes, please!

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Ygor
@ygor@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic Truly a "don't threaten me with a good time" moment.

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eddy
@edd___y@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic In 2023, France tested 2 iphone 12 that had a SAR of 5.7 (EU limit is 4) and immediately stopped sales, until a patch was rolled out. Apple immediately updated the, then, 3 years old phone.
Apple is currently rolling out the same patch accross EU for a 5 years old phone to avoid a recall
(And the fanboys are mad about it 😄 https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/09/02/frances-unnecessary-iphone-12-rf-patch-is-spreading-across-europe )
But I am sure that Apple is really considering leaving the EU market now 🥱

AppleInsider

France's unnecessary iPhone 12 RF patch is spreading across Europe | AppleInsider

The French government used questionable methods of testing to declare the iPhone 12 modem exposed the user to radio frequency emissions above the legal limit. Now the European Union is demanding it too.
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Kierkegaanks regretfully
@Kierkegaanks@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic they should for a while. We need to cut down on vanity spending

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SouprMatt
@mls14@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic Counterpoint from John Gruber:

https://daringfireball.net/2025/09/apple_on_the_digital_markets_act

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Apple on the Digital Markets Act

How in the world would that increase competition? iOS’s unique and exclusive features — which, yes, in many cases, are exclusive to the Apple device ecosystem — *are competition*.
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WylieCoyoteUK
@wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic No great loss, iphones.

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Matthew Loxton
@mloxton@med-mastodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic
I bet China and all the other manufacturers of phones are leaning forward in their seats, thinking "do it ... do it ... do it"

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Ruud Steltenpool
@steltenpower@social.edu.nl replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic Is that a promise? That would be one more way to have not have an employer force an Apple product on me

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dibi58
@dibi58@this.mouse.rocks replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic

good, keep your overpriced spying junk all for yourself ...
😂

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Aurochs
@aurochs@todon.eu replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic I was never gonna buy one anyway.

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Edjo
@Edjo@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic

Would love an episode of @daringfireball The Talk Show with @pluralistic as the guest.

@gruber

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Bo Flecks
@Nead@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic 12,680. That's the number of H-1B visas that Apple has issued in the last three years. Today, that would represent 1.2 Billion dollars in total visa fees at the newly hiked cost. It might behoove Apple not to upset a European revenue stream at the same time they are trying to recruit/keep top international talent.

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Edjo
@Edjo@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic
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Ygor
@ygor@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@pluralistic Wow, this paragraph sure took a turn. Have you been listening to Scandinavian metal by any chance?

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Matt Hall
@401matthall@mastodon.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@WinNT4 @pluralistic

I dunno... I kinda hope they do it.

But they won't. They're bluster. If... and it's a huge if, they seriously considered it what they'd do is split the company up and have an EU compliant company then the rest.

But in their hearts they're cowards. That's why they gave Trump a stupid trophy/plaque while Tim stood there being insulted by Trump of all people.

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