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@benroyce last night I caught up on all the drama and I'm absolutely flabbergasted... and a little surprised there hasn't been more talk on here about the implications of the false promises of AT Proto's decentralization.
Link has been permanently banned even if he's on Blacksky... because Blacksky uses Bluesky's AppView https://bsky.app/profile/rvbdrm.com/post/3m2jxe5ly722x
Looking up "Link Blacksky" on Bluesky surfaces really interesting talking points
@erikcats@dice.camp @benroyce@mastodon.social No.
I'm on wafrn (app.wafrn.net), which is fully independent, their mod service does nothing, and the account still exists there.
blacksky has bluesky's mod service added to their appview, but they can remove it at any time.
@luca@sironi.tk @_elena@mastodon.social @benroyce@mastodon.social They have bluesky's mod service added to their appview. They can remove this at any time, and substitute it with their own.,
how is 99% bluesky "also true" for 25% mastodon.social's share?
it's not "also true"
99 does equal 25
in fact, large parts of the fediverse suspend mastodon.social
please read and understand:
I don't particularly like AT proto, aside the bridge, i'm not there, I find it extremely difficult to understand it, for no relevant reason to me.
On the contrary, ActivityPub can be understood in 5 minutes from anyone willing to.
What I mean is that, once someone prove to be able to fully self-host AT, it's up to people to do so.
It became open to decentralization.
Your account is on the flagship mastodon instance, that 25% is also concerning, ok, less concerning but still concerning.
I guess also mastodon.social had 100% of share at the beginning
Last year they got 100%, I don't think they have still 99%, but let's see in one year from now.
i don't care about promise, i care about reality
i also judge harshly endless promise and no delivery. people have been hyping bluesky as decentralized for years. but it isn't. so it's people swallowing hype and ignoring facts
"someday"
i don't care
today, mastodon is decentralized, blueksy isn't, and all bluesky does is promise and doesn't deliver
that means something. something i will judge
@_elena@mastodon.social @luca@sironi.tk @benroyce@mastodon.social Blacksky has their own relay: https://atproto.africa
@benroyce @luca brilliant analogy Ben.
And besides visibility, I think Link - and other people who got banned - may have also lost the ability to log onto their accounts. Post history, social graph, followers, poof! All gone up in smoke (as far as I can tell, correct me if I'm wrong).
On the Fediverse, my self-hosted GoToSocial instance ensures I have full control. Sure, I can be blocked by scores of other instances, but I still have control over my data. The true power of decentralization
@mastodonmigration @benroyce wonder what the fix is there. maybe the non-follower mentionee having the ability to blow the followers-only lock off so people *can* see it?
@admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com @benroyce@mastodon.social @erikcats@dice.camp That's not entirely true.
Relays can purge old content, and appviews can purge old content, or only take in content relevant to them (like mastodon does).
I first became aware of her when she called out the self-pitying narrative of a woman who had her 10 yo committed. She was getting death threats, and when she mentioned that, people still told her how rude and mean she was. Stopped when she and the mother released a joint statement. She was not so lucky going forward. Jacobin published some bs about her, and it increased the number of rape and death threats she--and her young child--received. 2/
@benroyce I was targeted exactly once on Twitter. I defended a friend of mine--a white man--against someone else, who just happened to be a WSJ columnist. His minions swooped in, and it only stopped two days later because my friend swooped in to call bs.
Someone else I knew on Twitter, whose name I won't use but is probably familiar to all of you, is a white female writer and journalist. 1/
@Wyatt_H_Knott @mastodonmigration
everybody deals with trolls and reply guys
usually there's still enough signal through the noise things are still generally enjoyable
some people deal with a lot more static than you and i
black people, women, gays, trans people, disabled people, etc: they are targeted by bigots
they get more noise, less signal
and that can tip over to: generally unenjoyable
they are hounded off social media
their accounts fall silent
thus:
"just block" doesn't work
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