@benroyce
It gets worse, IMO.
Since when has requesting mods to suspend an account been harassment?
At least on fediverse if there is a flurry of reports about an offensive account they take action not complain about it.
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@benroyce
It gets worse, IMO.
Since when has requesting mods to suspend an account been harassment?
At least on fediverse if there is a flurry of reports about an offensive account they take action not complain about it.
@benroyce @galacticstone
Lol, I've poked my head up over there too for protest/resistance content, but don't have any plans to do much with that account but observe.
@benroyce Thanks for the context for other posts I've been seeing.
@benroyce anyone who expects Bluesky to do the right thing clearly hasn't been paying attention.
@benroyce
I saw some posts on this and didn't know what was going on. There will be more of these trolls coming as Bluesky gets more visibility. Why not just block them?
you can't just block them for the same rationale you articulate:
more will come if they get a foothold
@benroyce
There are many trolls there already. I have a long block list. Now I have almost no issues.
@benroyce
Yes I do see the problem. I have a long BLOCK list on Mastodon too. Some really insufferable people on here. 😆
well then the issue becomes
"bluesky is a positive space for those who wish to escape the bigoted degradations of twitter et al"
vs
"bluesky also welcomes bigots, you just have to maintain a comprehensive blocklist"
you can see why this pisses people off
@benroyce I get that at some level. I'm sure all of us have been exposed to people who are smug and not gracious when you admit you're wrong, or like the idea of taking someone down a peg so they can be elevated themselves. There are good reasons to want to avoid that, but it can also be confused with people venting their entirely justified anger at previous wrongdoings.
Let people vent at this guy all they want. He's dehumanizing people, and he should hear it.
@dnkboston @manualdousuario @NatureMC
pride
it's not a deadly sin because someone likes looking in the mirror
it's a deadly sin because when challenged on their behavior, they instead double down and embrace the bad behavior and in fact go to even worse
some people can be introspective and admit they did wrong
some people are "never wrong"
jk rowling seems to be the archetype example of that
all she had to do was go "i was wrong"
some people cannot do that
they deify their self-regard
@benroyce If only they could be hounded to genuine contrition instead, but that doesn't seem to work. @manualdousuario @NatureMC
@dnkboston @manualdousuario @NatureMC
exactly
there is a difference between hounding someone to the ends of the earth for a past transgression they have admitted contrition about and apologized for
and hounding someone to the ends of the earth because they are an active and willing gleeful transphobe
@benroyce There's a level at which it's fair to say, "Okay, that was a long time ago, and that isn't who I am anymore." Thinking about young people who are feeling themselves on social media before they understand, well, the world. Those people deserve a little grace.
This guy? No.
@manualdousuario @NatureMC @benroyce
You could start this whataboutism at any level of criminal behavior. 'Today pedophiles, tomorrow, who knows?'
The account is clearly a bigot and troll harassing large numbers of people. Why doesn't that kind of child get put in the time out corner in your world?
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